tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7691251033406320222.post1425812143323360477..comments2024-03-26T04:19:38.862-07:00Comments on kitchen table math, the sequel: chemprof on merit aid, part 2Catherine Johnsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03347093496361370174noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7691251033406320222.post-91106247624468176222011-04-22T12:57:42.035-07:002011-04-22T12:57:42.035-07:00Vicky - that's so exciting about your teaching...Vicky - that's so exciting about your teaching!!<br /><br />I'm jealous!Catherine Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03347093496361370174noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7691251033406320222.post-21762659548459170772011-04-22T12:57:24.067-07:002011-04-22T12:57:24.067-07:00I'm going to sound thick -- but why the top 25...I'm going to sound thick -- but why the top 25%?<br /><br />In other words, are you saying don't just apply to schools where you're in the top 5 to 10% of students? (Apply to schools a bit 'below' your group?)Catherine Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03347093496361370174noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7691251033406320222.post-81984151735549977012011-04-21T22:35:01.545-07:002011-04-21T22:35:01.545-07:00Yes, that was my son, applying mostly to schools w...Yes, that was my son, applying mostly to schools where he was in the top 25% based upon the data on the college board website. He also focused on schools that showed a higher than average amount of non-need based aid, per the college board site. It was a successful strategy. We did not fill out the FAFSA so any offers my son received were truly merit aid; they did not know our income. As I think I mentioned before, I was pretty sure he'd only qualify for work-study and loans, and I figured we'd arrange for that on our own, outside the federal system, if we needed or wanted to. We are in the unusual situation of single mom with good income and 2 kids near college, with mom wanting to quit her day job and teach full time! So if I do that, in a couple of years it might make sense to move into the federal system for financial aid, but not currently.VickyShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01379636377049707525noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7691251033406320222.post-36475335565172889382011-04-21T11:00:26.983-07:002011-04-21T11:00:26.983-07:00Merit aid can involve need, but doesn't always...Merit aid can involve need, but doesn't always. Again, it depends (which I know is frustrating to parents). The best strategy is probably the one someone else (VickyS?) mentioned in the earlier thread -- apply to at least some schools where your student is in the top 25%. You can figure this out for SATs pretty easily, since US news reports the 25% and 75% SATs for all the schools that are listed.<br /><br />Even then, you may have higher odds depending on where you are in the country, the student's gender, and a host of other intangibles.ChemProfnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7691251033406320222.post-2696039467594169192011-04-21T08:03:11.015-07:002011-04-21T08:03:11.015-07:00There is so much confusion among parents about &qu...There is so much confusion among parents about "merit" vs. "need" aid, including hybrid awards that include both. Many "merit" scholarships have a need component, sometimes making it hard to understand exactly what combination of need and merit goes into determining who will receive the funds.<br /><br />Over at collegeconfidential, there are many discussions expressing annoyance with parents who brag that junior received a "scholarship" from Harvard or some other school that only offers needs-based aid.<br /><br />It's so complicated.Gracehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16355093065582134401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7691251033406320222.post-91928885207927762052011-04-21T07:32:15.336-07:002011-04-21T07:32:15.336-07:00The amount of merit based aid may also have been a...The amount of merit based aid may also have been a function of family income. Years ago I qualified for a National Merit Scholarship. Qualification was by test scores (and maybe grades?), but the *amount* was based on my parent's income.<br /><br />I can imagine a lot of merit based aid today also having a need component.<br /><br />-Mark RouloAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7691251033406320222.post-66764509181519534392011-04-21T03:39:03.272-07:002011-04-21T03:39:03.272-07:00My dd received quite a bit of merit aid. I really...My dd received quite a bit of merit aid. I really felt for all the other straight A kids who did not. The formula seemed to be some mysterious mix of grades, extracurriculars and personal interview. That puts my mathematical but Asperger's ds at a disadvantage.Lisahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04329601656633314983noreply@blogger.com