tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7691251033406320222.post2546162109786839138..comments2024-03-26T04:19:38.862-07:00Comments on kitchen table math, the sequel: basic skillsCatherine Johnsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03347093496361370174noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7691251033406320222.post-74954042570413919032010-07-07T21:37:41.823-07:002010-07-07T21:37:41.823-07:00http://nrich.maths.org is a valuable site that I u...http://nrich.maths.org is a valuable site that I used in the UK. Allied with the University of Cambridge, it can stretch students of all ages.<br /><br />Richard IAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7691251033406320222.post-5582920228187951912010-07-03T17:11:05.519-07:002010-07-03T17:11:05.519-07:00Well, my son is going to a different school next y...Well, my son is going to a different school next year, and I don't know whether I'll be able to start a math team there. The county math competition ends at 8th grade, and the AMC-10 competition is a lot tougher.<br /><br />I found http://www.mathcircles.org/ to be an excellent resource for anyone starting a math club, particularly one for middle-schoolers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7691251033406320222.post-66533041660881146532010-07-03T15:06:26.209-07:002010-07-03T15:06:26.209-07:00A good book describing one parent's efforts to...A good book describing one parent's efforts to improve his kids' school system is<br /><br />"Class Warfare: Besieged Schools, Bewildered Parents, Betrayed Kids and the Attack on Excellence"<br />by J. Martin Rochester, published by Encounter Books in 2004.Bostoniannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7691251033406320222.post-63287952973447428862010-07-03T14:57:30.416-07:002010-07-03T14:57:30.416-07:00Kudos to gasstationwithoutpumps for startng a math...Kudos to gasstationwithoutpumps for startng a math team. A book for him is "Math Coach: A Parent's Guide to Helping Children Succeed in Math", by Wayne A. Wickelgren and Ingrid Wickelgren . The book gives practical suggestions for running a math club and lists many resources for math enrichment.Bostoniannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7691251033406320222.post-46242072377022846732010-07-03T09:24:12.437-07:002010-07-03T09:24:12.437-07:00"parents are aging out of the system, which m..."parents are aging out of the system, which means they may be less interested in the schools"<br /><br />Not necessarily. Schools and even parent associations actively discourage middle-school parents from getting involved in the schools, telling them "your kids don't want you in school any more." Of course, they don't ask the kids, some of whom are delighted to more parental involvement.<br /><br />I resisted the discouragement of the parent association at my son's private middle school, and started a weekly math team meeting. It was not a hugely popular event, but for the 5 kids involved I think it was a rewarding experience (for one thing, the 5 of them won first place in the county team math competition, and 2 won first places as individuals).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7691251033406320222.post-70158236927942694922010-07-03T06:09:31.533-07:002010-07-03T06:09:31.533-07:00There's another issue re: changing the culture...There's another issue re: changing the culture. <br /><br />Palisadesk wrote a comment a few years back saying that high school teachers are very resistant to change and reform. Elementary school teachers will get with the program (including bad programs forced upon them, of course) but high school teachers dig in their heels.<br /><br />In Minneapolis I stayed with a former school superintendent who told me the same thing. She was fantastic; she had raised achievement substantially in her district - but mainly (or solely?) in grades K-8, I think. (Cassy - if I've got that wrong, can you correct.)<br /><br />Now that I've spent a year on our high school site committee & 2 years attending board meetings, I see what they're talking about.<br /><br />Which brings me back to culture change.<br /><br />In my experience, many parents don't realize that their schools aren't what they should be until their kids reach middle school. That was true of us. <br /><br />So you don't get a potentially activist parent population until kids are heading into high school - by which time two things have happened:<br /><br />* parents are aging out of the system, which means they may be less interested in the schools - and definitely means they have less direct knowledge of the facts on the ground<br /><br />* those parents of older kids who do become politically activated are dealing with the part of the public school system that is most resistant to reformCatherine Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03347093496361370174noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7691251033406320222.post-74131153071362765302010-07-03T05:03:17.768-07:002010-07-03T05:03:17.768-07:00Parents who value education can make a big differe...Parents who value education can make a big difference at home, but isn't the goal to make that unnecessary? Schools see that the kids who do well are supported by parents at home, but they come to the completely wrong conclusion. They think that those parents "value education", but they are doing so much more. They are directly teaching and tutoring.SteveHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03956560674752399562noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7691251033406320222.post-61976845798435021572010-07-03T00:00:50.520-07:002010-07-03T00:00:50.520-07:00"[you need to create a culture] where more pa..."[you need to create a culture] where more parents value education" is too vague and makes too many assumptions.<br /><br />What does it mean to value education? <br /><br />I met someone who told me that the schools here in St. Paul are "fabulous", and immediately got angry to the point of yelling when I said that well, the schools here were uniformly terrible in math and science. He immediately attacked me with a "how can you know? your kids aren't in school", and when I told him about msmi, he sidestepped all of it and just yelled that we must value different things and therefore, would never agree. My inability to see that coming aside, I imagine many people value things other than liberal arts academics.<br /><br />You can't change a culture of a school board if the town thinks it already has schools which are good enough. <br /><br />People make value judgments based on what they can observe. What evidence do people have that their school isn't good enough? Not someone else's school, but theirs? What evidence matters to them?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com