tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7691251033406320222.post6001656695053458859..comments2024-03-26T04:19:38.862-07:00Comments on kitchen table math, the sequel: Susan Engel's revolutionary new proposals for education reformCatherine Johnsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03347093496361370174noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7691251033406320222.post-35225007270058953052012-05-18T22:22:55.526-07:002012-05-18T22:22:55.526-07:00It’s my fortune to read this post. You have writte...It’s my fortune to read this post. You have written it very well. I appreciate your work. I will keep on coming here to read new articles. Thanks for posting.<br /><a href="http://www.custom-essays-lab.com/Essay-Topics-Ideas.html" rel="nofollow">essay titles</a>ambercummings78https://www.blogger.com/profile/10409860114781831147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7691251033406320222.post-76066874582773324092012-05-18T00:38:30.637-07:002012-05-18T00:38:30.637-07:00Your article is marvelous. I feel like reading it ...Your article is marvelous. I feel like reading it again and again. I admire your work. You have done a good work. Thanks for sharing.<br /><a href="http://www.educationalwriting.co.uk/" rel="nofollow">writing a masters dissertation</a>thesis writinghttp://www.educationalwriting.co.uk/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7691251033406320222.post-10560538105877035782010-11-29T06:29:26.372-08:002010-11-29T06:29:26.372-08:00I find the timing of the piece to be fascinating s...I find the timing of the piece to be fascinating since the new federal ed funding is expressly moving away from the previous requirement that reading instruction be "scientifically based". What a victory for Marie Parks and her Guided Reading program!sSoftmod Wiihttp://www.wiihomebrewguide.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7691251033406320222.post-8681335909513198042010-10-11T22:30:09.717-07:002010-10-11T22:30:09.717-07:00I visit this blog so many time,because every time ...I visit this blog so many time,because every time something new,and I read all articale your blog, very interesting.Dissertation Samplehttp://www.dissertationswriting.co.uk/Dissertation_Samples.htmnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7691251033406320222.post-65249712024493728812010-05-05T05:43:27.279-07:002010-05-05T05:43:27.279-07:00great blog .great blog .Term Papershttp://www.ghostpapers.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7691251033406320222.post-5448917254980571952010-04-12T12:44:26.024-07:002010-04-12T12:44:26.024-07:00I am part of a commission that is helping the new ...I am part of a commission that is helping the new Sup. John Covington help reshape and revitalize the Kansas City Missouri School District. I loved reading the comments. our first exercise was examining constructivism versus other approaches like behaviorism or pragmatism for example. It seemed most of us believed a blended approach was best.Hearing what teachers think about this is the best. I am not sure what another poster was saying about Howard Zinn. I guess that person and I disagree about the relevance of the late historian's work. I am hoping that the district will look at and use some of the same methods or books that are used in Singapore.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7691251033406320222.post-33610503263319488672010-02-04T18:57:23.542-08:002010-02-04T18:57:23.542-08:00Susan Engels teaches adults in college. I want to ...Susan Engels teaches adults in college. I want to hear from the classroom teachers not their professors.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7691251033406320222.post-9472267332793373592010-02-04T06:53:30.935-08:002010-02-04T06:53:30.935-08:00From the Core Knowledge Blog, with a tip of the ha...From the Core Knowledge Blog, with a tip of the hat to Katharine:<br /><br />Old Whine, New Bottle<br /><br />How did the New York Times get suckered into running an op-ed piece that recycles standard ed school constructivist orthodoxies, presenting them as a bold, new curriculum initiative? <br /><br />http://blog.coreknowledge.org/2010/02/04/old-whine-new-bottle/Robert Pondisciohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07091207852645712158noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7691251033406320222.post-24261137353209182252010-02-03T18:27:58.780-08:002010-02-03T18:27:58.780-08:00"We say to Engel what we say to P21: Where..."We say to Engel what we say to P21: Where's the content?" <br /><br />http://blog.commoncore.org/?p=154Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7691251033406320222.post-25381513390686777392010-02-03T17:36:29.653-08:002010-02-03T17:36:29.653-08:00When I saw this on the op-ed page, I hoped it woul...When I saw this on the op-ed page, I hoped it would be about pre-school and Kindergarden because where I live, they do need to put play back into the day (also quiet time in Kindergarden.<br />I was so sad when I read the op-ed. I wanted to send her a link to the video about how teaching content is teaching reading. <br />I don't even want to think about the rest.Genevievehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10965189234214474942noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7691251033406320222.post-57092841105145280522010-02-03T16:38:13.611-08:002010-02-03T16:38:13.611-08:00momof4,
Catherine might have that info but I thin...momof4,<br /><br />Catherine might have that info but I think she's out of town at the moment. I remember her looking into that a few years ago.<br /><br />The old site might have something about it, too. Try the search engine there (or here.)<br /><br />SusanSAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7691251033406320222.post-38505836149074912482010-02-03T16:26:09.420-08:002010-02-03T16:26:09.420-08:00"Our success depends on embracing a curriculu..."Our success depends on embracing a curriculum focused on essential skills like reading, writing, computation, pattern detection, conversation and collaboration — a curriculum designed to raise children, rather than test scores.<br /><br />Pattern Detection. Well, thank god that pattern detection is finally being recognized as the important skill it is, right up there with reading. <br /><br /> And "conversation" too. Why, instead of sending home those annoying art projects that take us hours to do, why don't they just assign "conversation"? That would be great.<br /><br />Seriously, it's like Whack-A-Mole. You finally knock one down and another one pops up. <br /><br />SusanSAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7691251033406320222.post-75611097762398890792010-02-03T14:59:15.237-08:002010-02-03T14:59:15.237-08:00Anonymous wrote: "And because self-esteem is ...Anonymous wrote: "And because self-esteem is so important, children in constructivist classrooms are taught to tolerate almost every behavior, however destructive."<br /><br />Isn't this also the mindset on Wall Street and among corporate oligarchs? Are there dots to connect here?Just-a-Thoughtnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7691251033406320222.post-66301165479370105592010-02-03T14:50:54.397-08:002010-02-03T14:50:54.397-08:00Sigh. Speaking of sighs, I was just told by parent...Sigh. Speaking of sighs, I was just told by parents researching Westchester County schools that they had been informed that at least 50% of Scarsdale first graders (and others) are being tutored, in spite of (because of?) the Scarsdale demographics. Does anyone have any more info on this? Specifically, is it because of the weakness of the curriculum and instruction (progressive idealogy)vs. the get-ahead of the Joneses mindset? I read that Scarsdale was switching to Singapore Math. How are the schools in Rye? elsewhere in the county? I'd appreciate info/links etc.momof4noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7691251033406320222.post-49183052952043680632010-02-03T10:49:13.317-08:002010-02-03T10:49:13.317-08:00Ditto. Constructivism has allure precisely because...Ditto. Constructivism has allure precisely because of its romantic and positive view of children and learning. Who could argue against its superiority to, say, the most restrictive tenets of behaviourism. And there is much to commend: constructivism's stress on pupil engagement in learning, its emphasis on dialogue, conversation, argument, and the justification of student and teacher opinions in a social setting. But when it comes right down to it, the constructivist view of the world is deeply troubling. Reality exists only as is understood by the learner. There is no objective truth to be explained and accepted. In such a post-modern relativism, science is just one of many ways of knowing the world. Its whole-language approach to reading has a corollary in the constructivist approach to mathematics, in which math is taught to be "appreciated" rather than as the sequential mastery of basic skills. Models of community and solidarity typically advocated by constructivists are what one critic has called "quasi-anarchical;" personal responsibility is replaced by group consensus. And because self-esteem is so important, children in constructivist classrooms are taught to tolerate almost every behavior, however destructive. So, again, shared experience takes precedence over facts, logic, and truth. Research does not support Engel's view that the constructivist approach enhances learning. Hers is a rigid ideological stance. You can do the research yourself. No, the cultish adherence to constructivism is symptomatic of a culture obsessed with choice and marked by a loss of confidence in study as a worthwhile activity that can spur debate that allows us to know truth.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7691251033406320222.post-59286783948123242482010-02-03T10:11:54.396-08:002010-02-03T10:11:54.396-08:00There's big money for higher ed institutions t...There's big money for higher ed institutions that advocate for these ideas.<br /><br />There's big money for the "nonprofits" that implement these ideas. Ever seen their oversize salaries and benefits. Start looking into KnowledgeWorks and New Tech Network and see how well it fits this vision.<br /><br />Finally teachers and administrators get to go to conferences in luxurious locations they are unlikely to visit except for an all expense paid package.<br /><br />There are lots of professional benefits for those willing to push this vision. Plus it fits in with their sense of equitable outcomes and school as a socialization process.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7691251033406320222.post-84724888595627931772010-02-03T10:04:38.067-08:002010-02-03T10:04:38.067-08:00Marie Clay and Guided Reading are rejoicing!
Gues...Marie Clay and Guided Reading are rejoicing!<br /><br />Guess this will also save her poorly conceived and expensive Reading Recovery program.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7691251033406320222.post-40690512401005124332010-02-03T10:03:09.513-08:002010-02-03T10:03:09.513-08:00"It is indeed always worse than you think.&qu..."It is indeed always worse than you think."<br /><br />After all of these years, I still can't understand where they are coming from? They have no ounce of doubt. They don't even couch it in terms of opinion - what they think is best for kids. No. Research shows. The best I can figure is that this is all they know. If you take that away from them, then they have nothing. Their position resists all attempts at examination of the details.SteveHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03956560674752399562noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7691251033406320222.post-54998903244591933732010-02-03T09:57:05.230-08:002010-02-03T09:57:05.230-08:00Purple Cows must be saddened today.
I find the ti...Purple Cows must be saddened today.<br /><br />I find the timing of the piece to be fascinating since the new federal ed funding is expressly moving away from the previous requirement that reading instruction be "scientifically based". What a victory for Marie Parks and her Guided Reading program!<br /><br />Likewise the NSF Math and Science Program ($180 million last year) that is responsible for pushing the fuzzy math texts like Everyday Math, Investigations, CMP on school districts is being EXPANDED to $300 million and moved into the USDOE.<br /><br />There will also be a Well Rounded Ed Fund to change the nature of history and civics instruction. Anyone think the Howard Zinn estate will soon be swimming in more royalties?<br /><br />Ms Engels' piece and the fed Budget heralds the final assault on solid academics in US classrooms.<br /><br />And we're funding our demise with borrowed or printed money.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7691251033406320222.post-33711718939426910622010-02-03T09:38:57.503-08:002010-02-03T09:38:57.503-08:00Katherine, in between Jay Gordon's pusillanimo...Katherine, in between Jay Gordon's <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jay-gordon/emthe-lancetem-retracted_b_447341.html" rel="nofollow">pusillanimous HuffPo piece on the ethical midget Andrew Wakefield</a> and this staggeringly stupid piece from Susan Engels, I've reach my emesis threshhold.<br /><br />It is indeed always worse than you think. No wonder teachers emerge from the edschools not knowing what they need to know.<br /><br />Whole Language -- the kudzu of education.Liz Ditzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03455722013211350247noreply@blogger.com