The husband has been a big fan of JTR for years. He (my husband, that is)WAS a Realtor in Phoenix. When Jim agreed with his assessment of the market, we sold our house. Two years ago - just before the famed Phoenix fall.
Whew.
Husband just pointed out the math lesson: Median home prices should correlate to median income. During the bubble, prices spiked and borrowers got loans they can't afford.
Additionally, median home prices should correlate to rents.
An example: we rent a 4400 sq ft house for $1900/month. If rents correlated to sales price, this house should be worth $265K. Zillow lists it at $435K.
Unlike Chula Vista - our house still has the pillars and appliances.
This is probably the naive country hick in me talking but man, those are some big, ugly houses and in a big ugly location. I don't get why they're so expensive. If you pay that kind of money for a house here you're getting a mansion on an island with it's own helipad.
Gosh. Those are just gruesomely bloated subdivision houses.
You have never gone house hunting in the Southlands!
When we bought our first house, we looked at houses in L.A.
We saw teardowns priced at $300,000 -- and this was over 20 years ago.
I'll never forget going inside some of these houses & finding virtually no furniture or appliances except for a TV & a VCR. (VCRs cost a thousand then.)
If rents correlated to sales price, this house should be worth $265K. Zillow lists it at $435K.
We'll buy it if it gets to $265k!
Good friend WAS a Realtor in Southern Cal. - Torrance, Redondo, Hermosa & Manhattan Beach areas. Five years ago, she sold $500K cottages to all her friends & neighbors. Then those friends got really greedy and tried to flip them for a million in 2 years. She left the business. I wonder whether those people can still afford their places?
Why did she leave the business (this was before the crash, right?)
She was disgusted by her client's greed. She now runs a spice store. I haven't asked, but I'll bet she wishes she stayed in RE a little longer and reaped the benefits before the crash. Can't be many people buying gourmet spices in So. Cal right now.
According to one of the many housing bubble blogs that I read, the sales price should be no more than 100x the monthly rental. So in the case of a $1900/month rental, that should sell for ~$190K.
This one's pretty excruciating
ReplyDeleteAssuming you were hoping to see something excruciating tonight...
Jim the Realtor
oh, boy
JTR rocks!
ReplyDeleteThe husband has been a big fan of JTR for years. He (my husband, that is)WAS a Realtor in Phoenix. When Jim agreed with his assessment of the market, we sold our house. Two years ago - just before the famed Phoenix fall.
Whew.
Husband just pointed out the math lesson:
Median home prices should correlate to median income. During the bubble, prices spiked and borrowers got loans they can't afford.
Additionally, median home prices should correlate to rents.
An example: we rent a 4400 sq ft house for $1900/month. If rents correlated to sales price, this house should be worth $265K. Zillow lists it at $435K.
Unlike Chula Vista - our house still has the pillars and appliances.
This is probably the naive country hick in me talking but man, those are some big, ugly houses and in a big ugly location. I don't get why they're so expensive. If you pay that kind of money for a house here you're getting a mansion on an island with it's own helipad.
ReplyDeleteGosh. Those are just gruesomely bloated subdivision houses.
Who is Jim the Realtor??
ReplyDeleteI never heard of him 'til yesterday.
Dawn----
ReplyDeleteYou have never gone house hunting in the Southlands!
When we bought our first house, we looked at houses in L.A.
We saw teardowns priced at $300,000 -- and this was over 20 years ago.
I'll never forget going inside some of these houses & finding virtually no furniture or appliances except for a TV & a VCR. (VCRs cost a thousand then.)
Median home prices should correlate to median income.
ReplyDeleteYou can say that again.
If rents correlated to sales price, this house should be worth $265K. Zillow lists it at $435K.
ReplyDeleteWe'll buy it if it gets to $265k!
Good friend WAS a Realtor in Southern Cal. - Torrance, Redondo, Hermosa & Manhattan Beach areas. Five years ago, she sold $500K cottages to all her friends & neighbors. Then those friends got really greedy and tried to flip them for a million in 2 years. She left the business. I wonder whether those people can still afford their places?
Why did she leave the business (this was before the crash, right?)
ReplyDeleteWe sold our cottage in Studio City for 500K.
ReplyDeleteIt was a little bigger than a cottage by the time we sold it since we'd added a fairly large fourth bedroom & had expanded the kitchen a bit.
Basically, it was a cottage with a pretty nice master bedroom suite added on.
Not unlike our current house, actually.
Though our current house has a master suite and a family room added on.
Why did she leave the business (this was before the crash, right?)
ReplyDeleteShe was disgusted by her client's greed. She now runs a spice store. I haven't asked, but I'll bet she wishes she stayed in RE a little longer and reaped the benefits before the crash. Can't be many people buying gourmet spices in So. Cal right now.
According to one of the many housing bubble blogs that I read, the sales price should be no more than 100x the monthly rental. So in the case of a $1900/month rental, that should sell for ~$190K.
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