kitchen table math, the sequel: bomb threat number 6

Tuesday, June 5, 2007

bomb threat number 6

This morning.

Kids were out from 8:30-ish to noon. Can't tell if it was just the high school kids or the middle school kids, too. update: it was both

This would be a good time to make my Forum post about collective punishment.



talk with your student

Here's the letter they sent home after the last bomb threat:

May 14, 2007

Dear Parent/Guardian:

This morning we received notification that a note containing an implied threat had been placed in the CMS (Cafeteria/Music/Science wing) girls’ restroom—the same restroom in which a note was found last Friday. Superintendent Dr. M. and the Irvington Police Department were immediately contacted and high school and middle school students were evacuated to Main Street School.

When police officials arrived, they performed a cursory check of the premises and requested that the Westchester County Bomb Squad be called in to conduct a more thorough search. No incendiary device was found and students were permitted to return to class. Since the note was found in an area shared by both middle and high school students, each building is involved in the investigation. Part of that investigation includes an analysis of the handwriting used in the notes.

We are deeply troubled by the number of occurrences (this is the fifth threat this year and the second in a week) and are exploring various options to address them in a positive and productive manner. This afternoon, district personnel and the Irvington Police Department convened to identifying possible initiatives to address the problem. As a result of that meeting, the following measures are being put into place immediately:

The CMS restrooms will be locked for the remainder of the school year.
All students will be required to sign in and out of class any time they leave the room.

Staff will monitor the bathrooms, stairwells, and other areas deemed as high priority in between classes.

We will meet with each class to review our policies and to ask for their help in apprehending the responsible party.

In addition, the district is offering a substantial monetary reward to any individual who provides information that leads to the conviction of the perpetrator. Long-term, we are also investigating the installation of a campus-wide security system involving video cameras.

As always, please feel free to contact us should you have any questions or concerns. Indeed, we hope you discuss this incident with your student to impress upon him/her the seriousness of these threats and the possible consequences (expulsion up to one year) if found guilty. Finally, please encourage him/her to come forward with any relevant information. We would obviously keep his/her identity confidential.

Your continued support and patience are greatly appreciated.

Respectfully,

etc.

How do you read this?

I read this to suggest that we parents are asked to assume that "our student" may be the perpetrator — either that or he/she knows who the perpetrator is — and to read him the riot act viz.: seriousness of the offense.

There's certainly no suggestion here about what to say in the event that "our student" has nothing to do with bomb threats and no clue who does and is maybe getting a little freaked out by the whole thing.

During one of the last bomb threats the whole middle school was made to sit down together in a tight bunch outdoors, arms held to their sides, without talking, for the 80 or so minutes it took to search the school.

collective punishment: proscribed under the Geneva Convention but standard fare here in Irvington.



Thinking Out Loud on group punishment and the law:

The problem with group punishment is that it violates the students' due process rights. Basic due process for student discipline requires that the student be told what they are accused of doing and the evidence against them described, and then they are given an opportunity to tell his side of the story. Goss v. Lopez. Manifestly, this is not and cannot be done in a whole school or whole class situation. Also, the student handbook is usually the "cookbook" for student discipline, and is an expression of school board policy in this area. I'm willing to bet that if you combed that, you would NOT find "group punishment" anywhere in it as a possible punishment, for excellent reasons. .... If the principal doesn't "get" the concept of violating the Constitutional rights of an entire middle school student population, it is possible that the Superintendent or the school district's attorney would. You may want to take this to a higher level. The good news about being "out there" with the administration over "math wars" is that you have nothing further to lose by making waves. So, make nice big ones.

Why is group punishment so popular if it is so obviously illegal? I think it is probably because teachers have zero training in basic school law as part of a typical teacher preparation degree, and most administrators have one or two classes in it at most, as part of the degree program that leads to certification as a school administrator, which is usually taught by retired school administrators, not lawyers. Talk about triple hearsay!


I'd say it's time for me to get this opinion to the school board and the community. Ed stopped me the last time, on grounds that "they've got to be incredibly upset."

I'm sure he's right, but otoh as usual we parents have had no "input" into the situation whatsoever. (That may not be accurate; the PTSA held a Forum for the administration last week to discuss the threats. I was too sick to go, and there've been no reports as to what was said.)

Last fall Ed and I met with the principal and asked him not to impose collective punishments on the kids. We pointed out that collective punishment is unethical; we also told him that his predecessor had not allowed teachers to impose collective punishments.

He said he wouldn't be imposing collective punishment; then he proceeded to impose collective punishments for the entire school year, over littering as well as bomb threats. In February the kids had to do a whole long character ed "problem-solving" assignment on the threats.

The principal also said - and this was back in September - that he would ask parents to volunteer to man the bathrooms, collect hallway passes, etc. "When you keep parents at arms length," he said, "you breed mistrust."

THEN: he didn't invite parents into the school, didn't ask parents to collect hallway passes, etc. I assume the teachers didn't want parents hanging around the school, but I don't know. I assume this because we are reliably told the teachers "like" the principal because he "leaves them alone."

So parents have spent the year complaining about the way the kids are treated. Apparently the teachers scream and yell at the kids every single lunch break. All the kids say so. I first heard about it from a parent at a "Coffee with the Principal" event; the other parents present confirmed her account and complained strongly.

Nothing changed.

I asked C. about it & he said the same thing. The teachers scream at the kids every day. That's lunch.

Then, of course, there was the freedom petition the kids all signed.

So basically the situation is that parents are locked out, kids are locked in, and 25-year old childless female teachers spend 30 minutes a day screaming at the kids.

And we have bomb threats.

And we have the administration putting a price on a kid's head.

26 comments:

Anonymous said...

Staff will monitor the bathrooms, stairwells, and other areas deemed as high priority in between classes.

Will they be hiring extra people to do this or do they really mean faculty/teachers?

I'm groaning as I imagine the faculty will ultimately be asked to match the handwriting against their samples.

LynnG said...

I was so encouraged at the start of the Dear Parent/Guardian letter when they stated,

"We are trouble by the number of occurrences . . .and are exploring various options to address them in a positive and productive manner."

Yet, despite this rhetoric, I don't see that they are doing anything positive or productive, other than throwing veiled threats and vague accusations at parents.

Geez, security cameras, locking the bathrooms, signing in and out of rooms, creating a virtual police state, this is positive?

Anonymous said...

Just a nit, but I believe you wanted to say that the collective punishment is proscribed by the Geneva Conventions, not prescribed:

proscribe: to prohibit
• A new rule proscribed extremely short skirts.
prescribe: to give a remedy
• Unimpressed by Boris’s moaning, the school nurse prescribed an aspirin and a quick return to class.

Catherine Johnson said...

good grief --- YES I meant to say proscribed ---- THANK YOU

Catherine Johnson said...

Lynn -

exactly

we desperately need a change in leadership

the admnistration is deeply negative - negative with a smiling face

I don't know if my friend was able to make a copy of the Dartmouth event, but if she did I'll figure out a way to get it on YouTube.

At the end of the evening (this was a Dartmouth admissions officer talking about our strategic plan) the superintendent closed the evening by saying she wanted to talk about ethics.

Well of course she wanted to talk about ethics; ethics is the only subject that interested her.

What do you do, she asked, when a college applicant commits fraud on his application?

The Dartmouth guy spent quite awhile answering the question, which was of zero interest to the community.

Then she had a follow-up. The event was supposed to be over; the super had stressed how critically important it was to end on time; but she had one last question.

"What do you do," she asked, "if an applicant has been accepted and has come to college and does something unethical, such as plagiarism, or....[she had to think a moment]...commits a crime."

That's our district.

The person at the top sets the tone, and the person at the top of our district is interested in ethics and crime.

This is what she wants an Ivy League admissions officer to discuss: not how to get into Dartmouth, but what happens when a student gets into Dartmouth and commits a crime.

Catherine Johnson said...

She has no concept - none - how insulting this is to parents.

Catherine Johnson said...

Here's a line from Number Two Pencil:

...it's not just urban schools that are struggling with discipline. New Fairfield schools have had more expulsions in the first couple of months of this school year than in any of the five full years that Dr. Kathleen Matusiak has been superintendent.

That's her record.

More expulsions in 2 months than in any of the five full years preceding.

This is our superintendent; this is who we hired to "lead" the district.

Her interest is in control, in "ethics," in "character," and, apparently, in crime.

Catherine Johnson said...

We are going to convict the perpetrator.

Catherine Johnson said...

http://www.kimberlyswygert.com/archives/001592.html

Catherine Johnson said...

My friend J. says her husband's solution is: IF YOU BRING ME A BOMB THREAT NOTE ** YOU'RE ** ON DETENTION.

Tracy W said...

What's the collective punishment in this letter?

Locking the restrooms and requiring students to sign in and out of class any time they leave the room is annoyingly confining to the students, but then adults also are expected to endure restrictions on liberties due to threats of terrorism. I once spent a period of time flying each week between Manchester and London and apart from all the hassle of security there I got patted down each time (I eventually started wondering if the guard was a lesbian). One can have serious doubts about the effectiveness of such searches or the worthiness of the trade-off between security and liberty, but I hadn't heard of any lawyer defining security measures as "collective punishment."

And I don't know about the US, but in NZ police often appeal to the public for help in solving crimes (there's a weekly TV show for this purpose), and sometimes offer money rewards.

Making the whole school sit down together in a tight bunch without talking does strike me as collective punishment, but security measures and rewards don't strike me as that.

Doug Sundseth said...

"25-year old childless female teachers spend 30 minutes a day screaming at the kids.

"And we have bomb threats."

Cause, meet effect.

When you set up an adversarial relationship between students and staff, especially if the students think such a relationship is unjust, the students will retaliate. And smart kids are really good at finding and pushing buttons. If you're lucky, the retaliation will just be crude cartoons. If not, you'll get this sort of silly, umm, stuff.

And if your response is over the top, the result will be contempt, not fear, and more such incidents, not fewer.

I bet when they were in ed school, the staff members didn't see themselves as Vice Principal Rooney or Dean Wormer. Welcome to the other side, folks.

LynnG said...

Cracking down on personal liberties of all students, even if legal, is not terribly effective at catching the culprit.

I'm going to guess that Principals and VPs that spend a significant portion of their time interacting with students, greeting them by name, conversing with them, treating them like humans, is pretty effective at improving morale.

When administrators set themselves up as untouchable authority figures they create an us against them atmosphere. Even the good students aren't going to tell on the culprit (if they know). Why help someone you despise?

Building rapport takes time.

Catherine Johnson said...

Having the kids sit in a tight bunch with their arms pinned to their sides not talking was a collective punishment and was experienced by the kids as a collective punishment. The adults made clear, by manner and words, that the collective was in trouble for the bomb.

The letter isn't a punishment; it's a letter.

However, it implies to me that the group is considered suspect.

Does it not imply that to you?

Catherine Johnson said...

They've had many collective punishments over the year. When some kids littered the playground everyone got detention.

When there's a bomb threat, everyone's freedom is taken away - and they are scolded as it is taken away.

Catherine Johnson said...

Cause, meet effect.

When you set up an adversarial relationship between students and staff, especially if the students think such a relationship is unjust, the students will retaliate. And smart kids are really good at finding and pushing buttons. If you're lucky, the retaliation will just be crude cartoons. If not, you'll get this sort of silly, umm, stuff.

And if your response is over the top, the result will be contempt, not fear, and more such incidents, not fewer.

I bet when they were in ed school, the staff members didn't see themselves as Vice Principal Rooney or Dean Wormer. Welcome to the other side, folks.


THAT'S EXACTLY THE WAY I FEEL!!!!

I'm not there, so I can't tell what's going on, but the kids UNIVERSALLY feel put-upon and oppressed -- the other day they were doing some kind of prisoner shuffle & calling out "Yes, boss!" etc....

You're right!

It's Dean Wormer!

Catherine Johnson said...

I hadn't heard of any lawyer defining security measures as "collective punishment."

My friend A. says the security measures are way over the top. She spends a lot of time in govt buildings, and the "security" in the middle school is far more intense than that in the govt buildings she visits.

Her take, early on in the year (her own child was getting demoralized) was, "Unless police have advised these measures they need to roll them back."

So basically we have over-the-top security measures that aren't working (that's the part that kills me - the threats have increased, not decreased) and we've got collective punishment which is unethical and probably a violation of board policy.

But yes, collective punishment is different from inconvenient security measures.

The collective punishment they do is things like group detentions, which they've done over and over and over again this year.

Typically a group dentention means the kids aren't allowed to leave the building for exercise. They have to sit in the lunchroom instead of being able to go outside as they're supposed to do.

That is presented as a punishment and experienced as a punishment.

Catherine Johnson said...

I don't know what's going on.

We've had 6 bomb threats since the new principal came on board; he came from an "urban" school and instantly started treating the kids like urban kids (and the parents like urban parents).

He's ticked off possibly ever parent in the school (it really may be every parent - I've never even ** heard ** of a parent who thinks he's OK....)

The kids don't dislike him; he's a friendly guy, a friendly authoritarian.

But there is ZERO sense of "school spirit" with this guy in charge.

ZERO

Nobody has collected the reward as far as I know.

Catherine Johnson said...

but in NZ police often appeal to the public for help in solving crimes (there's a weekly TV show for this purpose), and sometimes offer money rewards

This is a tiny little town; everyone's going to know this family; this principal has been here for all of 10 months.

It's a nasty move.

He's about as tone deaf as they come.

Actually...in this case I was curious to see whether I was an outlier. I'm completely fed up with the bomb threat business, BUT what I'm fed up with is the hysteria surrounding the bomb threats.

I asked around a bit.

People are scandalized by the letter, especially by the reward.

I can't quite tell what else people think, and I didn't make it to the bomb threat forum last Wednesday.

Catherine Johnson said...

One other thing.... the kids making the bomb threats appear to be girls.

The threats show up in the girls' bathroom, and I know that at least one of the kids was caught. That child was an 8th grade girl last year.

ms-teacher said...

There have been times where I've used collective punishment, especially with my fifth period class. They are a loud, raucous bunch and on Wednesday, we have a minimum day schedule. This means that I get them right before lunch. When they don't quiet down and let me teach, I'll start off with a five minute whole class detention. Usually, most of them will settle down.

Usually, when the bell rings, I'll dismiss those kids who very rarely, if ever, cause problems and/or talk when they are not supposed to talk. As the the minutes pass, the students who cause the most problems are let go last. It's collective punishment for about 1 to 2 minutes if that.

(FYI, at my youngest's previous school, during his 3rd grade year the new principal made an announcement over the loudspeaker that Mrs. F had died of a massive heart attack. Mrs. F had retired the previous year and had been my youngest's kindergarten teacher. My husband and I were outraged that the administration would be this clueless. However, after we inevitably pulled him out of the school, it all made sense in a sick/twisted kind of way.)

Anonymous said...

They've had many collective punishments over the year. When some kids littered the playground everyone got detention.

And meanwhile they will teach Civics and due process in class. Oh yeah, I figured this one out in high school.

Anonymous said...

Phrasing pet peeve (in the letter): the use of the phrase "your student."

What they really mean is "your child."

The kid is the parents' child and the school's student.

Catherine Johnson said...

There have been times where I've used collective punishment, especially with my fifth period class. They are a loud, raucous bunch and on Wednesday, we have a minimum day schedule. This means that I get them right before lunch. When they don't quiet down and let me teach, I'll start off with a five minute whole class detention.


Welll...... this raises the issue of common sense once more, common sense & trust.

When you've got an entire class acting up, class detention, for me, falls under the "common sense" category.

In fact, this reminds me of my own parents, with 4 closely-spaced kids, at some point just telling us all to "pipe down."

My mom used to lock us out of the house sometimes. That settled us down pretty fast.

Point is: when you've got competent & sensible teachers AND parents AND kids feel as if you've got competent & sensible teachers things just get HANDLED.

You don't have to have COMMUNITY FORUMS ON THE BOMB THREATS, etc.

Catherine Johnson said...

They've had many collective punishments over the year. When some kids littered the playground everyone got detention.

And meanwhile they will teach Civics and due process in class. Oh yeah, I figured this one out in high school.


Exactly.

The whole thing is just ridiculous.

A collective punishment for littering is LUDICROUS.

Plus the collective punishment is horribly counterproductive, because it ALWAYS means: NO EXERCISE OR FRESH AIR FOR YOU, BUB!

I wouldn't have been bothered if they just sent all the kids outside to pick up the litter.

Sure, that's making some kids pick up for other kids, which isn't fair....but they'd be getting exercise, they'd be out in the fresh air, and somebody has to pick the stuff up.

I wouldn't squawk.

In fact, I'd be perfectly happy if the kids had some regular chores they did around the school, one of which could be picking stuff up from the playground.

Catherine Johnson said...

But having everyone sit inside a huge, dome-ceilinged, extremely loud cafeteria while we pay janitors to pick the stuff up -----

where is the common sense?